Comments on: Tom Antion - Refunding Mentees? http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/ Denver seo - proven internet marketer and seo in Denver, custom blogs from denver web design perspective. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:22:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Knox http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-5427 Knox Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:51:22 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-5427 <p>Jim, Knox is a proper noun;<br /> proper noun (also proper name)- a name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with initial capital letters, e.g., Larry, Mexico, and Boston Red Sox. Often contrasted with common noun.<br /> Jim, I'm sorry your school failed you and thanks for detailing what is not to be "believed"</p> Jim, Knox is a proper noun;
proper noun (also proper name)- a name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with initial capital letters, e.g., Larry, Mexico, and Boston Red Sox. Often contrasted with common noun.
Jim, I’m sorry your school failed you and thanks for detailing what is not to be “believed”

]]> By: Jim http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-5421 Jim Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:07:47 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-5421 Are we to believe someone who won't even post their name? What's a Knox? Are we to believe someone who won’t even post their name? What’s a Knox?

]]> By: James Boyer http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-4630 James Boyer Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:21:32 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-4630 Nail him Knox, Nail him. Nail him Knox, Nail him.

]]> By: Knox http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-3507 Knox Wed, 09 May 2007 01:43:20 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-3507 I never thought this site was "pretty" Dan, you DO know that pr, as you said "google ranks you 1 to 10" is not what you thought it was. But because you put it out there, this is a 4 in little time, not 3. I know, but it is not a site SELLING anything. Your site, Dan, is a PR1 - in FOUR YEARS, contains 23 different meta-tags and is a front-page mess that will not rank organically (that means generate traffic that you can sell to - for those who don't understand that traffic is vital to conversion). Dan, I'm not picking fights, I'm telling the truth. I understand you want to defend your poor investment, but some day you have to realize you lost. Dan, there's so much wrong with almost every line of your comment, I really don't have the energy to pick it apart. There's nothing for me to "get over". You say Tom wants people off his list, not true. That's a method for him to stuff more sales down your throat. Funny, you found this article by searching for "tom antion" - mission accomplished. Sorry for the delay in it posting - your ip was flagged as spam in Akismet. Something else - do people like you actually NOT think that site architecture has anything to do with how a site ranks? Doesn't THAT bring in traffic, and isn't that what you need before you can SELL anything? You guys are missing a huge part of the process - all because one man says it's not important. You say "his site is better" because it's a 4... you really did waste your money. Again, you admit your failure yet attack the spirit of these articles. Bottom line is that "pretty sites" has nothing to do with seo. Toms "methods" are well known and FREE to anyone who wants it. If some people don't want to do the work, they will fail, but they don't have to pay 5 g's to get public info, spammed for life, and then threatened with a non-enforceable shake down. Dan, don't spam me anymore unless you want to send me 5 grand for some outdated and stupid advise. k I never thought this site was “pretty”

Dan, you DO know that pr, as you said “google ranks you 1 to 10″ is not what you thought it was. But because you put it out there, this is a 4 in little time, not 3. I know, but it is not a site SELLING anything. Your site, Dan, is a PR1 - in FOUR YEARS, contains 23 different meta-tags and is a front-page mess that will not rank organically (that means generate traffic that you can sell to - for those who don’t understand that traffic is vital to conversion).

Dan, I’m not picking fights, I’m telling the truth. I understand you want to defend your poor investment, but some day you have to realize you lost. Dan, there’s so much wrong with almost every line of your comment, I really don’t have the energy to pick it apart. There’s nothing for me to “get over”. You say Tom wants people off his list, not true. That’s a method for him to stuff more sales down your throat.

Funny, you found this article by searching for “tom antion” - mission accomplished. Sorry for the delay in it posting - your ip was flagged as spam in Akismet.

Something else - do people like you actually NOT think that site architecture has anything to do with how a site ranks? Doesn’t THAT bring in traffic, and isn’t that what you need before you can SELL anything?

You guys are missing a huge part of the process - all because one man says it’s not important. You say “his site is better” because it’s a 4… you really did waste your money.

Again, you admit your failure yet attack the spirit of these articles.

Bottom line is that “pretty sites” has nothing to do with seo. Toms “methods” are well known and FREE to anyone who wants it. If some people don’t want to do the work, they will fail, but they don’t have to pay 5 g’s to get public info, spammed for life, and then threatened with a non-enforceable shake down.

Dan, don’t spam me anymore unless you want to send me 5 grand for some outdated and stupid advise.

k

]]> By: Dan http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-3363 Dan Sat, 05 May 2007 07:17:17 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-3363 I am amazed. I,too was a mentee of Tom Antion. I found his info and techniques, not only ethical, but practical. Tom does all he can to get people OFF his list, to keep them from calling his emails spam. My only problem was and is ME. I couldn't do it all fast enough, but Tom reminded me, it had taken him nearly 10 years to do all he talks about. I'm no lemming. His program is not expensive, but moderately priced for the volume of info and expertise he provides. He tells you he's no techie,but a marketer. And I have met a few people like you, and the dissatified mentee who denigrate him, because he puts down artsy/ graphics people who DO pretend to be SEO/techie savvy. They are the only ones who are really cheating people, because they can design pretty websites, that aren't at all functional for SEO/Search engines. The mentees who ARE doing wel on the web, followed his advice from his butt camps (free forever after you attend the 1st), CDs (many of them included in the mentee prog.), videos, mentees calls, teleseminars, downloadable mp3s, coaching calls (anytime appts. with Tom)AND DOING THE WORK. Those who aren't doing well, aren't doing the work. And did they read the contract they agreed to, before they signed? Aparently, their own greed must have blinded them. Tom tells you how, even the what and where. But I understand those Mentees who can't either do it themselves or won't hire a techie like yourself to do the tech work. Other than that it IS all about marketing and thinking differently about marketing on the web, than in other media. For the amount of time and effort I received from Tom, it would've cost me at least twice that to get ANY info on internet marketing from a college course. And I'm still working on it. By the way, hits don't matter, sales matter, SEO should bring more sales, NOT more hits, which cost you time AND money. And Google ranks your page a 3, Tom's is a 4 out of 10. You're not doing bad, but his IS better. Hope you continue to do well in your SEO and stop trying to pick fights that are neither winnable nor worthwhile. If your feelings were hurt by Tom, do what another speaker says. "Get over it, Get a life." Your fortunate you have one, and it's in SEO. More power to you. Congrats, Dan I am amazed. I,too was a mentee of Tom Antion. I found his info and techniques, not only ethical, but practical. Tom does all he can to get people OFF his list, to keep them from calling his emails spam. My only problem was and is ME. I couldn’t do it all fast enough, but Tom reminded me, it had taken him nearly 10 years to do all he talks about.
I’m no lemming. His program is not expensive, but moderately priced for the volume of info and expertise he provides. He tells you he’s no techie,but a marketer. And I have met a few people like you, and the dissatified mentee who denigrate him, because he puts down artsy/ graphics people who DO pretend to be SEO/techie savvy. They are the only ones who are really cheating people, because they can design pretty websites, that aren’t at all functional for SEO/Search engines.
The mentees who ARE doing wel on the web, followed his advice from his butt camps (free forever after you attend the 1st), CDs (many of them included in the mentee prog.), videos, mentees calls, teleseminars, downloadable mp3s, coaching calls (anytime appts. with Tom)AND DOING THE WORK.
Those who aren’t doing well, aren’t doing the work. And did they read the contract they agreed to, before they signed? Aparently, their own greed must have blinded them.
Tom tells you how, even the what and where. But I understand those Mentees who can’t either do it themselves or won’t hire a techie like yourself to do the tech work. Other than that it IS all about marketing and thinking differently about marketing on the web, than in other media. For the amount of time and effort I received from Tom, it would’ve cost me at least twice that to get ANY info on internet marketing from a college course. And I’m still working on it.
By the way, hits don’t matter, sales matter, SEO should bring more sales, NOT more hits, which cost you time AND money. And Google ranks your page a 3, Tom’s is a 4 out of 10. You’re not doing bad, but his IS better. Hope you continue to do well in your SEO and stop trying to pick fights that are neither winnable nor worthwhile. If your feelings were hurt by Tom, do what another speaker says. “Get over it, Get a life.” Your fortunate you have one, and it’s in SEO. More power to you. Congrats, Dan

]]> By: Knox http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-2236 Knox Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:22:31 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-2236 Eva, I KNOW you're not alone. Don't be scared of his shake-down. I would like to learn more about your experience though. I would love for you to publish (I'll help) the threat and show the world his true nature. This site gets more hits than his, so please, share anything you wish. Just know that you own your words and they should be the truth (that's why I don't worry about writing about him) :D Eva,

I KNOW you’re not alone. Don’t be scared of his shake-down.

I would like to learn more about your experience though. I would love for you to publish (I’ll help) the threat and show the world his true nature.

This site gets more hits than his, so please, share anything you wish. Just know that you own your words and they should be the truth (that’s why I don’t worry about writing about him) :D

]]> By: Nev http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-2235 Nev Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:11:36 +0000 http://www.ebaspace.com/2007/03/24/tom-antion-responds/#comment-2235 I was looking for the dirt on Tom. I joined his Mentorship program several years ago. I did nothing with it because I am not a techie and didn't understand much of what he was saying during the weekend, even though I had listened to his CD's and read the material. Today I got a threatening email from him, saying that if I am making any money on the web I owe him 25% of it and if I am working on any other project I owe him $50K. The guy is nuts. He never spent any time with us to figure out that his program just wasn't for us. He didn't put any time into us. Never helped us figure out how to use his program (that was for us to do). I want to know if there are a hoard of people out there that have had the same experience of him and how to gather them up to put this guy out of business. Any suggestions? I was looking for the dirt on Tom. I joined his Mentorship program several years ago. I did nothing with it because I am not a techie and didn’t understand much of what he was saying during the weekend, even though I had listened to his CD’s and read the material. Today I got a threatening email from him, saying that if I am making any money on the web I owe him 25% of it and if I am working on any other project I owe him $50K. The guy is nuts. He never spent any time with us to figure out that his program just wasn’t for us. He didn’t put any time into us. Never helped us figure out how to use his program (that was for us to do). I want to know if there are a hoard of people out there that have had the same experience of him and how to gather them up to put this guy out of business. Any suggestions?

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